(April 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(April 14, 2016 at 12:32 pm)SteveII Wrote: Anyway...what is your point? That the universe popped into being out of nothing that meant something other than "not anything"? Where did that nothing come from? Or, do you want to switch back the definition so you can say "that makes no sense"?
Maybe it always existed, just like you claim for your god.
Here's a thought...
Existence always existed. That's it. End of...
What actually always existed? Describe its properties so that it is at least logically possible to produce what we see now.
You would have the problem of the infinitude of past series of events is illogical.