RE: 'Merica gets punked by russians: Europeans better learn to speak russian
April 15, 2016 at 12:48 pm
(April 15, 2016 at 12:10 pm)abaris Wrote:(April 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm)Goosebump Wrote: Regardless of everything you just said, you don't prop up a guy who is barrel bombing his civilian population. You take him out. If your looking for a perfect solution your being naive. It's a mess. That's clear. It's all bad choices. That doesn't mean you should sit back and allow it to happen.
First, we only take out bad guys if it's in our interests. Otherwise Saudi regime change would have been on our agenda for the last four to five decades. Secondly, I'm not looking for the perfect solution, I'm looking at the realistic option of not creating yet another terrorist hotspot by removing a secular leader.
Lets not misuse the word "secular" here. Saddam was a Muslim combined with his Baathist party he ruled. Secular does not mean "godless" it means not playing favorites. He played favorites to one sect. One party political states are also not secular. There was video of him walking to the gallows saying "Allah Akbar".
A section of a population is sectarian, and can be a section of political views or religious views or both. North Korea is a sectarian state, Iran is a sectarian state. Europe and America are secular, meaning protecting both religious and political diversity.
But it is true, we cant take out all the countries we don't share views with. I'd love to get rid of Iran and Saudi Arabia and North Korea, and while China is not the cold war China it used to be, it's not anywhere as free as the west comparatively.
"Secular" means neutral, anti monopoly.
"Sectarian" can be either rule by one political section or religious section of a population or even a combo of both.