RE: Mind is the brain?
April 18, 2016 at 9:14 am
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2016 at 9:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 17, 2016 at 6:15 am)bennyboy Wrote: How is the aggregate flow of data isolated in a human machine?Chiefly, by connected neurons, and more generally by the membranes which hold the chemical constituents of the nueron's signalling mechanisms. The first -could- account for representational states all by themselves. The second allows for non-representational states (such as drunkeness, or any other chemical effect, impair the brain, impair the mind...and, as a proposition, impair the comp system). These signal transmitters -are- isolated, even if they aren't doing comp, by virtue of their material composition and structural arrangement- chemistry and physics will tell you how far and through what impulse "a" or chemical "b" could carry a signal. In the larger picture, they are located within a single skull, attached to an individual body. Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to shoot (or receive) mind -or- brain beams, or, if we can..they have too little effect to notice.
Quote:It seems to me that all the things you claim of comp mind also apply to say the internet, since all the roles of comp mind are included both in connected people and in the funciton of the hardware itself. Would you describe google as Skynet?The internet is not a comp system, itself, to begin with. No, I don't think google is skynet. Related to the above, though......I -would- consider human language/society/the internet as a network filled with human skynets interfacing with machine assistance (and, tellingly, interfacing with those machines involved).
Explains the Himmlers, they're just trying to actualize an ideal representation formed by their value algorithm (
-had to satisfy Godwin after 30 pages).Quote:It so happens, as an aside, that I wrote a 700-page (or so) novel on Vancouver becoming conscious and taking over the world, and I actually used a lot of ideas similar to your comp mind.
Links. Need to read, am junkie. They're not -mine-, but thy're good ideas. Ultimately, the brain may function some other way, we don't know. Comp Mind at least presents us the opportunity to explain it's operation by a known mechanism. It would be greatly amusing to find that a city had become conscious. One wonders what sort of psuedo-neurotic imperatives would play on a City-Mind.
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