(April 19, 2016 at 3:12 pm)driver82 Wrote: Barbaric culture didn't create it. Islam created the barbaric culture. It was a counter culture to pagan Arabia of those times where freedom of speech was widespread which is evident by the number of poets during the times of Islam's birth. However, Muhammad ordered execution of many prominent poets who used the contemporary culture of criticism through poetry. A few notable casualties were Abu Afak, Asma Binte Marwan and Abdullah bin Khatal etc. Furthermore, Jews and Christians lived peacefully with Pagans back then. Muslims started killing or converting all other people by making lame excuses and brought the pluralistic society to an end.
Nope sorry, this is where I disagree with you. I do agree that the Hadiths and Quran DO contain violence yes and those words are used as weapons and I do agree that the Middle East is stuck in it's own dark ages.
But no, they didn't invent religiously justified barbarity. Christianity is much older and even in the Americas we've had genocide, and slavery and sexism and homophobia.
You can only argue time frame in that the Quran isn't as widely watered down as much as the west does with religion as far as interpretation. But the barbaric language was around in the bible and OT, long before Mo. It certainly does not justify the start of pouring gas on the fire, which your argument would be better to make with the Mo character, but the violent tribal god is the same one of all three. You can only argue that the first Muslims simply took the tribal god and decided that they'd be more literal with their barbarity, but they didn't invent the idea, and even Christianity today although tamped down by secular law, still has justifications in the bible excusing violence as well.
