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RE: Necessary Thing

April 21, 2016 at 8:23 am (This post was last modified: April 21, 2016 at 8:24 am by robvalue.)

I don't know what premises you're proposing. Did I miss something? Or are you talking about one of these syllogisms?

How can you know whether they are correct, for both observable and unobservable things, once you lay out premises for contingency and existence?

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Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 4:05 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 4:53 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Grandizer - April 20, 2016 at 11:13 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 3:16 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 21, 2016 at 1:35 am

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 22, 2016 at 3:50 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:58 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:52 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 2:53 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Whateverist - April 20, 2016 at 10:27 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 10:32 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:47 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by FebruaryOfReason - April 15, 2016 at 6:25 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by brewer - April 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 7:08 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Whateverist - April 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by TheRocketSurgeon - April 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 3:08 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 10:01 am

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 21, 2016 at 12:00 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 22, 2016 at 2:12 am

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