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RE: Necessary Thing

April 21, 2016 at 8:28 am (This post was last modified: April 21, 2016 at 8:31 am by robvalue.)

I'm gonna take a break and give my brain a rest Tongue

I don't agree that the existence of one object depending on continued existence of the other means the second object is providing anything, except in a purely metaphorical or tautological way. We're not saying why the relationship is this way. It just is this way. You seem to be assigning it more meaning than is apparent. It's cause and effect.

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Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 4:05 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 4:53 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:32 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Grandizer - April 20, 2016 at 11:13 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Whateverist - April 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 21, 2016 at 1:35 am

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 22, 2016 at 3:50 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:28 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:56 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by brewer - April 15, 2016 at 5:53 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 5:58 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:52 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 2:53 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Whateverist - April 20, 2016 at 10:27 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 10:32 am

RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:47 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by FebruaryOfReason - April 15, 2016 at 6:25 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by brewer - April 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by abaris - April 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by ApeNotKillApe - April 15, 2016 at 7:08 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 7:14 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 7:28 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 3:41 am

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 2:25 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm

RE: Necessary Thing - by TheRocketSurgeon - April 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 3:08 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 21, 2016 at 8:28 am

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