(April 21, 2016 at 11:57 am)Rhondazvous Wrote:(April 21, 2016 at 9:01 am)SteveII Wrote: ]Again, you cry bad hermeneutics, but do not show how the context in 1 Corinthians invalidates my use of it to show that god deplores wisdom when it doesn’t glorify him.
first, the 1 Cor verse has nothing to do with what you are talking about and your insistence not to use the context to find the meaning is confusing at the least.
2 Samuel 24: You are basically correct in your facts. The sin was not the counting, it was the condition of David's heart (the leader of God's chosen people) and David knew it as soon as he did it. Was the glory properly Gods?
I am glad you can see that the passage in 2 Samuel does show god’s violent response when he isn’t getting all the glory. But why was it a sin for David to count the number of fighting men at his disposal? And why would god punish David by killing thousands of people? Do you really want to defend this?
You conflate "wisdom of the world" (better spelled out in verse 20) with true wisdom (knowing what is really true). The passage is talking about people with the mindset like those on this forum. They think they have the latest wisdom and they "are enlightened from our bronze age beliefs". If God/Jesus turn out to be real, "the wisdom or the world" would be destroyed.
Regarding the OT story, you are back to the moral argument. You are apparently making the claim that humans have rights in relationship with God and God does not have good reasons for doing what he does. What is your support for those claims?
