RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 21, 2016 at 2:03 pm
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2016 at 2:04 pm by paulpablo.)
(April 21, 2016 at 10:54 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: That the woman isn't provided the necessities of life is an assumption. The Old Testament says put adulterers and adulteresses to death by stoning. Not much wiggle room there.
That's true actually I hadn't thought of that. Still leaves the woman with a fairly dull existence. This punishment plus the flogging. And the wife beating if a husband fears his wife is rebellious.
Plus comparing something with the bible means nothing to me personally, I'm an atheist I don't see the bible as the hallmark of civilization.
I'm just commenting on the precise statement that as a standalone book the quran is peaceful. If this book was introduced today to the modern world as a brand new peaceful philosophy I think it would fail. If it was never a holy book and it was just introduced in stages as essays introduced on websites like this one, tumblr, youtube and so on.
Yeh there's loads of verses that are quite nice but the bad bits just wouldn't pass in today's world. You couldn't tell a modern day feminist that the verse only says to beat her if her husband feels rebellious as a last resort. Slut shaming is one thing but lashing people for having sex outside of marriage probably wouldn't hold up as a peaceful idea in today's world. Rules concerning it being OK marry people who the right hand possesses.
But hey I can't speak Arabic, maybe beat means pat on the head, right hand possesses means woman you're holding hands with, flog means have stern words with and so on and so on. But as an Atheist who holds no particular miraculous importance to the quran I'd guess it is talking about slaves, beating wives and so on because this was all pretty much an ok moral standard to have at the time and standard practice. Not evil, but just not up to today's moral standards.
The correct response to someone who says the quran is peaceful isn't to look at other similar religions to compare to if you already believe those comparative religions to not be peaceful.
It's like someone holding up three rotten apples, the newest one is slightly less rotten but someone is telling you the apple is fresh someone else is telling you, no that apple is rotten.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
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