(April 23, 2016 at 4:34 pm)IATIA Wrote:(April 23, 2016 at 3:04 pm)SteveII Wrote: Creation of the universe would be creating the system.
Why? The universe is simply a changed form of what it was 'before' the Big Bang'.
So, you don't think that the beginning of space-time and all physical reality (including physical laws) could be characterized as a new system? Please also explain how the laws of physics stop working at Planck time (before you get back to the singularity) and how the First Law of Thermodynamics mysteriously is exempt and will continue on not just to the singularity, but through to the other side.
In addition, please tell us what came 'before' the Big Bang that avoids the absurdity of a past infinite chain.