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RE: Necessary Thing

April 24, 2016 at 6:42 am (This post was last modified: April 24, 2016 at 6:46 am by robvalue.)

You're welcome Smile

Earlier you were saying an infinite chain of contingency is impossible, something to that effect. I don't know how you could possibly know that.

I have the counter example of the existence of helium being dependent on the existence of our entire reality, which could depend on the existence of another parent reality, and so on.

If you're instead just trying to zoom in on things to see if we can find a "smallest part", then that would explain a lot of my confusion also.

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Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 4:05 pm

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RE: Necessary Thing - by Ignorant - April 15, 2016 at 6:47 pm

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