(April 25, 2016 at 3:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: Vilenkin concludes, “there are no models at this time that provide a satisfactory model for a universe without a beginning.”
Vilenkin also agrees with Hawking that, "the most promising approach appears to be the Quantum nucleation of the universe from nothing." ~35:15 Furthermore, when asked "Does your theorem prove that the universe must have had a beginning?" by Victor Stenger, Vilenkin replied, "No. But it proves that the expansion of the universe must have had a beginning. You can evade the theorem by postulating that the universe was contracting prior to some time. [emphasis mine]" Vilenkin then goes on to quote the work of Gratton, Carroll and Chen who propose that the universe could very well have been contracting before it started expanding. (Stenger, The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning, p.128).
Clearly Vilenkin doesn't draw the same conclusions about God you do.
(April 25, 2016 at 3:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: God could have decided to exist timelessly in the past and then decide to create the universe and in doing so became temporal.
When exactly did God decide to exist timelessly?
