(April 25, 2016 at 4:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(April 24, 2016 at 9:53 am)Jehanne Wrote: Yeah, I don't know how Steve can claim that god is "timeless" and yet claim that it is absurd to make the same claim about the Universe, that is, it is also "timeless". For if god is "timeless", then, clearly, there must have been a "time" when god decided to create the Universe (hence, time), but Steve would have us believe that god's decision to create the Universe was simultaneous with god's acting to create the Universe which was simultaneous with the Universe's actual creation. So, three events all happened at the same time -- deciding, doing and result, and that is absurd!
It seems to me, that here you are both arguing that the universe could be timeless, and that there cannot be something which is timeless. Could you clarify please?
I see plenty of evidence for the Universe; I see no evidence for a god or god(s); let "God" heal a 1,000 adult amputees of his/her/its own choosing, and then come back to this forum, and we'll talk about me converting to theism. Until then, completely naturalistic explanations exist for the Universe's origins.
