(April 26, 2016 at 9:05 am)Drich Wrote:(April 26, 2016 at 8:32 am)Stimbo Wrote: I've had theists tell me I'm being unreasonable and irrational for 'demanding' physical evidence of a non-physical cause, ie their pet god. They miss the point I just laid out; that it's not the cause for which we require evidence, but the alleged effects, which we can then investigate and determine if they actually support the non-physical cause the theists posit.
I have never told you that.
I myself have always been a doubting Thomas. I am a visual person I have to see things and how they work. Because of this I myself did not come to God till later in life.
Jesus Himself says to Thomas "Blessed are those who can believe without seeing." Many take that to mean We ALL must have blind faith. but what the people who created that extra-biblical doctrine missed, was the fact that Jesus physically appeared to Thomas to say that. Meaning He did not say 'shame on you for not having so much blind faith you could fake yourself out into belief..' Rather He gave what thomas exactly what he needed to establish and maintain his belief. He did the same with Paul. In turn He has offered the same thing to all of the rest of us on an individual level. All we need do is take Him up on his offer.
That's rather contradicting.
It's rather hard to understand how theists think, even after being a christian for most of my youth.
