(April 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(April 26, 2016 at 9:16 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: The evidence points to a beginning of the Universe...The absurdity that follows in trying to avoid this, I think is both hilarious and sad.
Maybe if you studied more physics, you would have more understanding, or, at least listen more to physicists who do have understanding:
Just because you and Dr. Craig do not understand certain scientific concepts does not make them untrue.
I do agree with Carol, lets talk about specifics, and not vague references. What specifically is it you are saying is not being understood? What evidence do you think is being ignored? What are you proposing, that you think is more correct, or why do you think the measured age of the universe is incorrect? Carol in his debate with Craig said that he found 17+ theories in an hour on google before the debate. He also said, that he doesn't claim that any are the right answer. That we are nowhere near the right answer yet.
Is there evidence, that is pushing them to look beyond the accepted age of the universe, or is it more ideological. I'd agree, that it certainly is keeping a lot of people busy. And I don't have a problem with scientist who keep searching and looking for a possibly better answer. People here are highly critical of philosophers and saying that arguments are not evidence. I don't completely agree, and think that the arguments are as good as their foundation. When you build too far from a good foundation, then things are bound to crumble. I don't see theoretical models as much different.