(April 30, 2016 at 2:57 am)Mudhammam Wrote:(April 30, 2016 at 2:26 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Like I said, the source of the Jesus myth does not matter at all. Jesus Christ of Nazareth did not exist in the same sense that Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter did not exist. Even if there was a guy named Jesus preaching at that time, he is not the Bible character. The Bible character is made up (pretty sure the magic powers would give that away), and that character is the only one that matters to the validity of the Christian faith. A mundane guy named Jesus does nothing for them, a bunch of guys for that character to be based on does nothing for them, and a previous iteration of that character with no Earthly component to his deeds CERTAINLY wouldn't help them, and those are by far the three most likely scenarios.True, and trivial. Glad you're catching on that everybody in history is written into books from the standpoint of their authors.
I'm sure that Rake and Nest-Egg here will chime in with "Oh, no main-stream historian thinks blah blah blah..." fine. Don't care. The magic zombie-Jew wasn't real, regardless of where the story actually came from.
What's trivial is squabbling over whether Earth's most popular imaginary friend is based on a singular, historical figure.
That said, even a mundane Jesus has less demonstrable historicity than, say, Socrates, so I still don't really see any evidence that justifies the certainty of the pro-historicity crowd in that case (not that it matters a jot).
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com