(May 3, 2016 at 5:03 pm)SteveII Wrote: God existed timelessly and changeless causally prior to the universe. Atemporal.
"Causally prior." I like it. If causes need not (chronologically) precede effects, then the creation event need not have happened yet. If the Large Hadron Collider doesn't manage it, some later--even more powerful--collider may do the job. If causes need not precede effects, your god is out of a job.
If Jehovah can exist timelessly and changelessly, atemporally, causally prior to the rest of the universe, why can't other things? Why can't the cosmic egg that caused the big bang have existed atemporally? For that matter--I had a big mac for lunch--how do I know that my big mac wasn't causally prior to the partaverse?