(May 5, 2016 at 7:03 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 5, 2016 at 3:20 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: What can be demonstrated by objective means to be so. Take for example yhwh, we know him to be imaginaty because of the impossuble attributes ascribred to him in the bible, so he's a good example. The current thinking on him (I use the word thinking very loosely) is that he is a being which is indectectable by any measuring instrument, completely divorced from our reality and able to change our reality on a whim without us being possibly ever able to detect his influence. Now this being who theists insists we'll never detect (until we die and go to heaven) can safely be dismissed because as theists point out we'll never have evidence (not one single scrap) for him.
indetectible?
From natural theology:
KCA
Moral argument
Ontological Argument
Fine Tuning Argument
Argument from Contingency
OT Revelation
Miracles
Jesus
NT Revelation
Personal experiences of literally billions of Christians
Perhaps:
Life
Consciousness
A) your theological arguments are neither natural nor evidence. At best, they are special pleading. At worst they are lies.
B) The bible isn't evidence. If it were we'd have to accept that a Scottish giant destroyed a land bridge between Ulster and Galloway, because he was feared of Cuchulainn. This is, of course theGiant's Causeway myth, and it has the exact same evidential basis as the bible. On miracles name me one single one that has been shown to have happened and demonstrated to have no possible natural cause. Only then will I accept miracles as evidence.
C) Consciousness is an emergent property of human (and possibly other large brained species) brain functions. There is no wvidence to show that life neither needs nor has a supernatural explanation. As with miracles, bring evidence to the table and we'll talk. Until then I'll continue on the basis that you haven't the first iota of a clue about what you speak on.
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