(May 5, 2016 at 10:48 am)SteveII Wrote:...WHAT?!?!(May 5, 2016 at 10:21 am)Time Traveler Wrote: Okay, Steve, this is only going downhill. You assert that your timeless God can have "a series of mental events [...] enough to form a before and after (therefore some measure of "time.") 1) Given that you believe your God is eternal, his "series of mental events" would be actually infinite, contradicting your many prior assertions that a past "infinite regress" is absurd. 2) This "series of mental events" measuring time also blatantly contradicts your confident earlier statement...
You are clearly making this stuff up as you go!
You missed the qualifier in the sentence preceding the quote: "prior to the universe". Your objection is that there was no time in order to change from this state into creating the universe. Why is it not possible, that God, after existing timelessly created the universe--which would be a mental event causally prior to the universe taking shape? Alternatively, why isn't it possible that God causing the event was simultaneous with the effect (since it was only efficient causation--not material causation)?
Sorry, that's all I've got until I get some sleep and come back to this thread with fresh eyes...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
