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Free Will - Yes/No?

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RE: Free Will - Yes/No?

May 8, 2016 at 7:37 am (This post was last modified: May 8, 2016 at 7:39 am by robvalue.)

OK. I'm not sure how I can make it any clearer. I will think on it.

I'm saying it's a flawed argument to use the lack of free will to try and persuade someone to act in a way that requires free will to make sense. It would be like saying how we should spend our money, assuming we have no money.

Why? Because I've seen this mistake many times. It's just an aside.

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Free Will - Yes/No? - by Excited Penguin - May 8, 2016 at 1:47 am

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RE: Free Will - Yes/No? - by robvalue - May 8, 2016 at 5:47 am

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