(May 8, 2016 at 3:50 am)robvalue Wrote:(May 8, 2016 at 12:35 am)Godschild Wrote: No, God doesn't need our help He is independent of any need outside of himself. He however invites us to join in His work of redemption, if you were a Christian before you would have known this and not have to ask the question, but then you're just looking to stir the pot once again. There is no further need to explain my answer, it is total in it's truth.
GC
Okay, he doesn't need our help.
Correct, good to see you understand.
rob Wrote:So your actions on his behalf are unnecessary?
Wrong, God finds then necessary in the relationship we have with Him.
rob Wrote:He's just making you feel included?
Wrong, He wants us included because we live in a relationship with Him.
rob Wrote:Redemption of what?
What! I thought you claimed to be a Christian at one time, guess you were wrong. Redemption from sin to an everlasting life with God.
rob Wrote:Why does he need to work to achieve anything?
Ask Him, I would think God like to work, I know I do, guess that's one part of his image I was created with.
rob Wrote:Can't he just announce it to be so?
He did with the creation on the first day, you want accept that was done, so why ask the question you want accept the answer to. Do you want to be redeemed by force?
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
