(May 9, 2016 at 9:03 am)Drich Wrote: If you don't care how people view your shameful ignorance of basic history, then please explain how someone who lived 6000 years ago is supposed to use a 400+ year old calendar.
Pathetic.
Pretty sure we're not the ignorant ones, here. We've linked you to the known cultures who used calendars of 360 days, which predate (and surround) the Canaanite/Hebrew regions. We've explained to you how there are multiple ways for people to know approximately how long a year is, dating back to antiquity.
Finally, the Gregorian calendar was just an update to the previous, Julian calendar, introduced in 46 BCE by Julius Caesar, making a few tiny adjustments for accuracy (leap year days, etc). The Julian calendar replaced the old Roman calendar, which went through several editions, mainly trying to keep up with the drift between the solar year and the spin-rate of the earth, which simply don't lend themselves to easy calculations for the number of days that add up to an exact year.
Before them, we also have the Zoroastrian calendars, themselves derived from the Babylonians (who were expert astronomers and astrologers... thus the "Wise Men"/Magi of the "We Three Kings" song/fable) and earlier Sumerians.
The point here is, for all your "we don't know" evasiveness on this one, so you can hold on to your precious mythology, that we DO know that the ancients were well aware of the length of a year, which means that the Old Testament authors really were claiming the Patriarchs lived ~900 years.
Since we know that, according to the story, Abraham-and-crew came from Sumeria to Canaan, and we know from discovered writings of the Sumerians that they alleged their KINGS (not commoners) lived and ruled for ~900 years (though the Sumerians also claimed that their earlier line of kings ruled for tens and in some cases hundreds of thousands of years, each, and only one dynasty was in the 900-year range), it stands to reason that the Hebrew writers simply appropriated this mythology into their own. The Sumerians did it as a way of claiming their newly-formed empire was really Very Ancient™, and had roots in great power... guess why the Hebrew writers did it, then!
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