Dr. Craig is a liar.

[Time Traveler]

I'm fairly certain that the KCA is not a logically sound argument.  Anyone with more experience in that arena care to weight in?  I'll have to go take another look at it myself.  

Steve, how does a being exist timelessly?  And secondly, how can a being have a conscious, temporal thought while in a timeless state?  Can you please be more specific in regards to your proposed mechanism?  And, as always, don't forget to provide supporting evidence for your assumptions.  

God existed timelessly and changeless causally prior to the universe. Atemporal. There was no stream of consciousness or successive chains of thoughts. He knew all truths intrinsically. Really, what would an entity that knew all truths think about? 

Depending on your preference between A and B theories of time, you can view God's temporality and the creation of the universe in one of two ways: On the A theory, once God created space-time, God underwent an extrinsic change with the new relationship to his creation and in doing so became temporal. On the B theory, you could conclude that God did not undergo any temporal change (either intrinsic nor extrinsic) and exists outside the block of time.

Steve, this is exactly what you said on page 35 of this thread, which I thoroughly deconstructed and then explicitly demonstrated your own blatant contradictions (p 42) - after which, you whine that just because someone trips up an unprepared Christian (clearly talking about yourself), we shouldn't read anything into it (p 42). But if you can't even defend your own hypothesis without making contradictory remarks, you should quit parroting the same bullshit over and over as if it means something.

Furthermore, you keep trying to dodge the actual question by attempting to answer a question that isn't even being posed. You parrot WLC's "logic" about how God, AFTER he created the universe, could undergo an "extrinsic change," trying to justify your answer based upon an A or B-theory of time, blah, blah, blah... but the assertion you are being asked to defend - again - is your ridiculous notion that "God existed timelessly and changeless causally prior to [BEFORE] the universe." So quite trying to redirect the question, go back and re-read your own ridiculous ad hoc contradictions, and just admit you have absolutely no clue how to logically reconcile this absurd notion that your God existed timelessly and changelessly prior to suddenly creating the universe. Just repeating an absurd premise over and over again may make you believe it, but that doesn't make your proposal remotely true or even coherent.