(May 11, 2016 at 8:04 am)Rhythm Wrote:(May 10, 2016 at 10:01 pm)SteveII Wrote: When I said these things are part of God's mind/nature I meant it was an intrinsic property and not a created or invented concept. It seems to me that God's mind has to be ordered according to some principles.
Why does it seem that way to you, and what principles would those be? What principles are capable of making demands or requirements on the mind of a god, of limiting it's ability, of determining it's structure or arrangement? Generally, the faithful seem to feel that god makes all the "accordings" - but in your case, you seem to think that there is some fundamental level of organization which even a god can't escape or determine for itself. Some item "x" for which god is not, itself, responsible but can be nothing other than in compliance with.
I think I am justified in thinking that if logic, math, and abstract objects are not dependent on the universe for their existence then they are based in the mind of God. Do they exist contingently or not? I see no reason to posit an arm's length relationship to these concepts (which seems more complicated) when it is plausible to think that God's mind is ordered logically. Regarding the bold, why would God want to escape or determine something different?
