(May 11, 2016 at 10:39 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 10:28 am)SteveII Wrote: So, say in another identical universe, there were no minds to contemplate such things. Would that mean that the concept of 8 objects does not exist? Does that mean that E=MC^2 still does not have a mathematical relationship? Does that mean that the idea of P then Q; P therefore Q would not have meaning? Words just represent concepts.
Well of course all those concepts would still exist, assuming this other universe is identical to ours. I just don't see how it supports the God hypothesis. The laws of our universe exist as they are. I don't understand your point.
The point is, (perhaps with the exception of E=MC^2) these concepts to not require any particular universe to exist.