RE: Heaven seems awful 2 me-"Theist laughs at loudly & with great cruelty"
May 11, 2016 at 11:54 am
(May 11, 2016 at 1:47 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 10, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: What precisely has the Holy Spirit guided you to understand that escapes us ordinary mortals, GC? And I'm not talking about warm fuzzies or the tumescence you experience when you read about Jesus.
Omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. Who Christ is, the Trinity and who the Father is. Just for starters.
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GC
Unconvincing. Are you saying that if you became a believer in some sort of cultural vacuum, armed with nothing but a Bible, that the "Holy Spirit" would have been necessary for you to infer God's alleged characteristics, the Trinity, etc., or are those doctrines implicit in the text and available to be teased out by a careful reading?
As it is, you didn't become a Christian in a cultural vacuum. Each of the beliefs you listed have been a part of normative Christian belief for centuries. You inherited these doctrines, and I don't believe for a moment that you arrived at them 'independently' with the help of the so-called Holy Spirit. Normative Christian doctrine is the lens through which you read the Bible, and your predisposition to accept it all as true is what provides you the certainty that you believe correctly. No immaterial spook required.
