(May 11, 2016 at 7:16 pm)SteveII Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 12:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Aaaand...god-magic. [emoji53]. Steve: TT is not required to think any of these things about God. He can simply follow logic and reason where they lead. You're the one making the assertions (e.g. God has some other magical way of coming up with the idea of creation without using "thoughts" or "a mind," which frankly, is idiotic and desperate when you consider it from an unbiased POV), so if you expect anyone to take them seriously you must support them with evidence.
Wait a minute. Aren't you the one that just claimed that logic and reason are constructs of humans and limited to our universe? How do these then apply to discussing God prior to the universe?
I am not making assertions. I am defending the inferences made by the KCA.
First, a correction: I said numbers and logic are models constructed by humans to describe the abstract laws of our universe.
Second, you did it again: "prior to the universe." You are assigning a timeline to what you assert is a timeless state. Can you address this contradiction?
Third, you're right: logic and reason have NOTHING to do with the ideas you are putting forth...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.