RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 12, 2016 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2016 at 9:37 am by Mister Agenda.)
SteveII Wrote:Quote:If you think the inferred qualities of uncaused cause, timeless, immaterial, personal, and powerful a presented as fiat, then either you do not understand the term or you do not understand the argument. Regardless of whether you believe the premises to be true, it is a logical argument. Simply dismissing it does nothing to make your case. The only way to defeat an argument is to show some form of logical fallacy or provide defeaters for the premises (see below). Incredulity is not a defeater.
From wikipedia:
In epistemology, a defeater is a belief B1 that is held to be incompatible with another belief B2, hence arguments or evidence supporting B1 can be used to refute B2.
- An undercutting defeater is B1 such that B1 does not oppose B2, but rather that the ramifications of B1, were it possible to obtain, casts doubt on the premises for B2.
- An opposing defeater is B1 such that B1 has a factual or otherwise claim that, were it to be obtained, would falsify B2.
Simply claiming it's logical doesn't make YOUR case. If you don't understand Craig's argument well enough to answer objections to it without hand waving (but it IS logical) or referring to material OUTSIDE of the argument itself (Craig spends three pages explaining why he's right on Premise 1!); maybe you need to study it more until you understand it well enough to defend it in your own words.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.