Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 12, 2016 at 10:49 am
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2016 at 11:58 am by LadyForCamus.)
(May 12, 2016 at 10:10 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 12, 2016 at 7:20 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Then please provide us with strong evidence for the truth of these premises. We're waiting...
Bold below is mine:
And, I see the rest of this is just regurgitated WLC. *face palm*
No, Steve...this is the real world we live in here. We don't live inside of a logical argument. If you can't demonstrate with good, tangible evidence that your premises are likely to be true; that they are an accurate representation of the ACTUAL universe we live in, then they are utterly meaningless.
Why is that scientifically unsupported? Nothing has a definition. Not anything. Can you name something that comes from nothing? Before you throw out quantum particles as an example, that is not an example of something coming from nothing.
It sounds like WLC because its his link/article that I posted.
Ping ponging questions back at me does not strengthen your case. I am making no claims. The KCA makes claims that require evidence.
I'll repeat: the assertion that: "something cannot come from nothing" requires you demonstrate that "absolute nothing" is even possible before we can even begin to talk about if the universe, or matter, came from it.
The idea that there was ever "not anything", or, "no thing" (which in and of its self is internally contradictory because it reads as, "there was a 'time' when there was nothing.") is a claim that requires evidential support.
Look at it this way. Possibilities for the origins of matter (that I can speculate):
1. God created it (I still don't know what this means)
2. It popped into existence from nothing (I'm not sure "nothing" is even possible)
3. It always existed in some form or another (I.e. There was always something)
4. I dunno...umm...aliens created it out of their own super-metaphysical multiverse.
5. I'm sure people can up with some other wild theory; I'm not that imaginative
My answer: I don't know. Physicists have spent their entire adult lives painstakingly researching and investigating the answers to these questions about existence for centuries, and they still haven't arrived at an answer with any degree of certainty.
Your answer:. "It's number 1."
The burden of proof is on you.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
