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(May 13, 2016 at 7:53 am)SteveII Wrote: There was no time so measuring it would be nonsensical. Since I am positing a beginning to the universe and a change in God, use of the word prior just refers to the previous state.
Here is the Merriam-Webster definition of the word "Previous"...
1 : existing or happening before the present time
2 : earlier in time or order
3 : immediately before in time or order
William Lane Craig has you are locked in a temporal hell. The word "previous" is synonymous with "prior." Every time you attempt to define God existing "timelessly" prior to/previous to (take your pick) creating the universe, you fail... by definition!
It is only because you cannot defend a past infinite regression that you must defend such obvious absurdities! But you are really only trading one paradox for another. Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
Quote:Question: Even if God had the "potential" for change, what internal mechanism could ever trigger a change in a timeless, changeless being that somehow existed prior to the creation of time?
(May 13, 2016 at 7:53 am)SteveII Wrote: God's decision to create was a timeless one in that there was no period of indecision preceding it. God could not have created the universe sooner. It simply is that God was timeless and changeless sans the universe and temporal and changing with the universe.
This does not remotely address the question as to what triggered the transition.
Decision, by definition, requires deliberation, consideration, and is the end result or conclusion of such deliberations. If there was no time in which God could have deliberated or contemplated prior to creation, then God did not "decide" to create the universe - he was literally incapable of doing anything else BUT creating the universe. Therefore, God's existence must be contingent on the creation of the universe. Furthermore, if there was no period of indecision, no point where options were weighed, contemplations reviewed, etc., then God cannot have made a choice other than to create the universe. A power incapable of choice is nothing more than an unconscious force, not an intelligent agent.