RE: Heaven seems awful 2 me-"Theist laughs at loudly & with great cruelty"
May 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm
(May 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your mistake was not reading everything I posted, I said I didn't put all atheist in that category. No I wasn't defending any atheist in my statements, I was stating what Christians do. I have been waiting for an atheist to supply facts about what they do to fight against the sex slave trade, you did and I thank you. I didn't see it was my responsibility to hunt down those facts, just as the atheist here tell me they do not see it their responsibility to hunt down positive facts about Christians, if one did I would probably have a heart attack. Again thanks for the response.
GC
My "mistake"? You clearly said, "The Christian church in it's efforts to stop the sex trade has influenced others to stop it. So with this understanding who's left to promote the sex slave trade..... unbelievers are the only choice, there only two sides to this and the Christians as a whole fight against it."
While we grasp that you mean only unbelievers are doing the trade, and not every atheist on the planet (duuuuhhhh!), you're nevertheless implying that only atheism leads people to do such things. Even a cursory examination of the facts shows that's not the case. Now, you can call the theists who do this "sinners" or "Not True Christians", but there is simply no evidence besides what you're pulling out of your ass that there's any correlation between nonbelief and an increased likelihood of doing that sort of horrible thing. What evidence there is seems to point to a reduced likelihood of nonbelievers doing that sort of thing, though even we admit that's probably because we generally have a higher average level of education.
What in the FUCK makes you think we don't know or acknowledge "positive facts about Christians", or that we'd have a "heart attack" if we did so?!? Many of us are married to theists, and there are innumerable posts about good actions by Christians, or of cooperation between secular groups and religious groups.
So rather than acknowledging that you had a prejudice, you simply assumed it to be true, based on your bias, until/unless someone could show you specific examples of the opposite (and ignoring that we have done so frequently in the years you've been here). You also didn't acknowledge the ways in which your religion's restrictive/anti-sex (Puritanical) viewpoint actually can harm the people who choose to engage in sex work, either voluntarily or out of economic pressure, which I pointed out.
You shouldn't have *had* to "hunt down" the way people like us feel about the sex trafficking industry; you should have known us as human beings by now well enough to know that we would never support anything remotely like slavery, or that harms women against their will, et cetera. But you didn't know because your prejudice is so strong, and you don't listen to us. That IS your responsibility, not as a Christian, but as a decent fucking human being.
Fail.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.