Would you live in VR?

[robvalue]

I appreciate the attempt

But what is a presence? I fear this is just another term for the same thing. Of course, informally, I know what "real" and "exist" mean. But formally, I have no access to any way of measuring either. I have to make assumptions first. I'm forever trapped subjectively, with no frame of reference.

For example: I define things to be real, then I wake up. Doh! I was wrong, they weren't real. Except they were, to me; so they make up a "reality".