Heaven seems awful 2 me-"Theist laughs at loudly & with great cruelty"

[Neo-Scholastic]

Respectfully, I must disagree with you that it is "obvious but trivial", at least from the perspective of a member of a loose group who are often accused of immorality and worse, with the "what is your basis"-derived arguments…

Let us agree to disagree on that one. Because I am speaking in the abstract and clearly you are expressing personal feelings. I do not want to invalidate your sincere feelings or attempt to reinterpret your experiences.

We've tried to explain to you that moral behavior is a social species issue, that it is seen in social animals as well, and that only humans have tried to assert that their particular belief-set from their particular tribe is actually the Ultimate Morality™.

Many animal species demonstrate social behaviors according to their evolved nature. Likewise Man also acts according to his nature as a social animal. So while I acknowledge your point that moral behavior is in part derived from our nature as a social species, I maintain that it is also informed by Man’s vastly more developed rational capacity that allows him to over-ride instinctual imperatives and/or guide them toward their proper ends.

What you're really doing is using a divine authorship claim to bolster the social moral structure put together by the ancient Israelites, as modified by Paul (et al) when those beliefs were shaped by Greco-Roman influence. You're saying that a book…contains a Direct From God List of Morals…

That may be true of those who believe in divine command. I say that the commands and ordinances given by special revelation are topical in nature and conform to the overarching principles of natural law found within sacred Scripture. Morality is based on virtue, conformity to Man’s highest nature as explicitly revealed in the person of Jesus Christ, but also partially available to pagans by reason alone. Some other Christians disagree. I have my proof-texts while they have theirs.

But the fact is that most Christians don't see us as anything but minions of Satan, or amoral agents of selfishness and evil.

Most? Perhaps that is what your personal experience tells you. As for me, I do not think that atheists as-such have any diabolical plan to destroy public morals, corrupt the young, etc. Most go along to get along until provoked by the outlandish pronouncements and/or over-reactive behavior of some Christians. I say this as respectfully as I can. In their zeal, activist atheist groups (like Freedom From Religion) and adamant left-wing secularists (like the Frankfort School) serve as the unwitting tools Satan uses to undermine the intellectual foundations of liberal democracy such as the belief in inherent human dignity and inalienable rights.