Dr. Craig is a liar.

[Huggy Bear]

Thanks for explaining for me, guys. I'm trying to do about six things at once, only one of which is this forum, at the moment.

But that's basically what I would have said.

Since magic has never been shown to be anything other than human imagination, and there's an issue (by sheer definition) with trying to verify the supernatural through testing, I'd have a high degree of skepticism. The degree of proof I require to see that mass attracts mass (aka gravity) is fairly low, because the claim is not a complicated or lavish one.

But to demonstrate that magic is real, and not just human imagination, well I'd want to be very sure of the methodology used to demonstrate it, since it's an entirely new phenomenon outside of the realm of storytelling.

On occasion, religion does make claims where they say their magic interacts with the material world, in such a way that science can test it... and EVERY TIME it's tested, it turns out that the magical claims fail. The prayer-healing studies are a classic example.

And yet, I keeeep seeing the "power of prayer to heal the sick" claims, simply because it's in your myth-book.

No one ever made any claims about 'prayer' healing but the bible state clearly that FAITH heals, that power lies solely within the individual, and if you think that science hasn't studied this phenomena, then I'd advise you to look into what science refers to as the placebo effect.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...-the-mind/

Placebo Effect: A Cure in the Mind
Belief is powerful medicine, even if the treatment itself is a sham.