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Why do Christians become Christians?
RE: Why do Christians become Christians?
(May 18, 2016 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(May 18, 2016 at 4:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: You didn't reference the picture in the original memory in your story.  The picture came in later as evidence, that the memory was false.  However the picture is limited in scope and time; it doesn't mean the memory was false, only that it wasn't captured in the picture.  
-and here we see, unfortunately, our standard response to a great many of these situations...to imagine any number of ways our "knowledge" could -still be true-....... despite evidence to the contrary.

Isn't this begging the question? Just because the story you imagined didn't work, don't blame me.

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Quote:I don't think that these stories are indicative of what I understand the point you are trying to demonstrate is.   Perhaps you can clarify the claim that you are making, so we can better examine it.  I think that from the beginning and in other threads, I have maintained, that aspects of memory/witness testimony can be inaccurate. I also believe strongly in evaluating all the evidence within the context of it's strength and in regards to agreement or disagreement with other evidence.    I've read a number of the studies provided and what they say, and don't dispute it.  What I do dispute, is that these studies disqualify personal observation and transmission of that information as evidence.

Other than that our memories are fallible, that our "knowledge" can contradict available evidence in relatively normal and common situations, and the ways we handle those situations when they inevitably arise?  Nothing.  That you saw where this could lead and mounted a defense of a false memory..that only existed in a thought experiment about a picture of a pig, however, might be demonstration of a great deal more.

I see... is thinking through what you proposed a problem? If I was suppose to start with the assumption that the memory was false, then doesn't that negate the point of you demonstrating it through your story?

Is this why atheist always say that there is no evidence for God.... They just forget it?
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Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 5, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 6, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Chad32 - May 5, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Athene - May 5, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Foxaèr - May 5, 2016 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 6, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:11 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 6, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 6, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 6, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 6, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Aroura - May 6, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Aroura - May 6, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by brewer - May 6, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Angrboda - May 9, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 10, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 10, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 8, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 9, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Brian37 - May 9, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 9, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 10, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 16, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 11:03 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Polaris - May 16, 2016 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 16, 2016 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 17, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 19, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 20, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Brian37 - May 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 19, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 19, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Foxaèr - May 20, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 20, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 20, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by GUBU - May 20, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 20, 2016 at 8:43 pm

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