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Why do Christians become Christians?
RE: Why do Christians become Christians?
(May 18, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(May 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Isn't this begging the question?
No.

Quote: Just because the story you imagined didn't work, don't blame me.
I'd actually be inclined to thank you, I could have never expected that you would respond the way you did...which turned a thought experiment only meant to show the work-a-day reality of those situations into something more amusing, and much more informative.  

Quote:I see... is thinking through what you proposed a problem?   If I was suppose to start with the assumption that the memory was false, then doesn't that negate the point of you demonstrating it through your story?  
Not at all, you provided a great example of what we might do when we don't simply say "hmn, guess I was wrong".  It was insight into the way -you- think, at the very least.  

Quote:Is this why atheist always say that there is no evidence for God.... They just forget it?
There are plenty of people who claim to have had an experience of the divine...but fail to recall the details or inaccurately remember what details can be ascertained about their stories.  I think you'll find that most of these people are not atheists....which is unsurprising.

I only have a little bit of time at the moment; but I would like to offer you some advice (you can do with it what you will). I'm not taking an absolute or extreme position here. I don't think that these scenarios you are presenting are going to turn out very useful.... You presented a story, which had some flaws (and seem to blame me for them). If you point, was that the person wasn't standing over the hog in the picture; I don't think that it was very clear, and you would also have to include in the story that there was only one picture.

However to save us both some time; I admit, You will be able to come up with a better scenario, in which I will agree, that other evidence is stronger than the witness testimony in that case. And it won't matter, because my position, is that it is not any type of particular evidence which always trumps all other evidence. I'm going to look at all the evidence, collectively, and see where it agrees, or if it disagrees (contradictory evidence). I'm going to look at what is the best explanation for all the evidence. I also do not thinking that getting me to admit this helps the case I believe you are making. I'll agree, that memory is fallible to a certain extent, and within limits.
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Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 5, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 6, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Chad32 - May 5, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Athene - May 5, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 6, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 10:11 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by dyresand - May 6, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 6, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 6, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 6, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Aroura - May 6, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by SteveII - May 6, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Aroura - May 6, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by brewer - May 6, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Angrboda - May 9, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 10, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 8, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Jackie - May 9, 2016 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Jackie - May 9, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Jackie - May 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Jackie - May 9, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 10, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 16, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by abaris - May 14, 2016 at 11:03 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Polaris - May 16, 2016 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 17, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by Jackie - May 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 19, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 20, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by robvalue - May 20, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Why do Christians become Christians? - by drfuzzy - May 20, 2016 at 8:43 pm

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