Dr. Craig is a liar.

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My point is that the bible has been saying that faith can heal long before science termed the "placebo effect".

But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole. - Luke 8:50

Yes, but what if they didn't believe? What if, instead... And they laughed him [Jesus] to scorn, knowing that she was dead. - Luke 8:53

They clearly didn't believe Jesus could heal the girl, and yet... magic!

I'm sure you have some special pleading as to why this case worked absent belief.

What I really want to know is, can faith healing alone regrow an amputee's limb? Is the photon God/Jesus you believe in powerful enough to bring back the dead today? If yes, cite the clinical trials. If not, why not? Why are studies done on the efficacy of prayer only attempted in cases where there is significant ambiguity as to whether or not any successes were caused by a natural placebo effect or a supernatural agent?

I want prayer studies for those who A) Received medical treatment for severe heart attacks/strokes but were not prayed for, vs. B) Those who received NO medical treatment for heart attacks/strokes but people prayed their assess off in any manner YOU choose. Are you willing to bet on the statistical successes from those two study groups? (My bet's on medical science - you get prayers and faith.) I want prayer studies on amputees. How about prayer studies to completely restore someone whose brains were blown out of their skull with a shotgun, bringing them back to life? Sorry, Huggy, you and I both know that your "all powerful God" isn't powerful enough - no matter how many true believers pray - to accomplish anything of this significance in trial settings. 

And you also never addressed the valid points LadyForCamus made regarding 1) Why God would save people only if prayed for, 2) What are the precise number of prayers necessary to jumpstart God into action, and 3) Why does God change his "Grand Plan" if enough people pray?

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So...god only helped those people because a randomized group of strangers chosen for a research study were assigned to pray for them?  Otherwise, what?  He would have let them die of heart attacks or strokes?  Was there a threshold?  Like, was God sitting up in heaven saying, "if they reach 100,000 prayers I'll save the guy.  99,000 just isn't going to cut it.  

Not to mention, the insinuation that we can change people's fates (down to their very life or death) with prayer flies in the face of the notion that God has a divine and personalized plan for each and every one of us.  I was meant to die at 50 of a stroke leaving my entire family alone and penniless, but thankfully enough people from experimental group B prayed for me so God changed his mind!  'Absurd' doesn't even come close.

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