Dr. Craig is a liar.

[Huggy Bear]

I am just thankful I made it to the end of a 104 page thread.
SteveII was more engaging than Huggy is being now.
Please try harder Huggy.

You posted a link to the Placebo Effect in response to questions following your own post about faith healing. So in your mind they're obviously similar, or the same thing.

To clear something up for me Huggy: when you refer to the power of 'faith', are you referring to 'faith that a supernatural god will provide a cure", or 'belief that what you've been told is medication, will cure you by natural means'? You seem to be confusing the two things.

Thanks.

Faith is a very simple concept, you guys exercise faith on a daily basis without realizing it. the act of getting out of your chair or starting your car is faith in a nutshell, it's that simple. No one worries about the details of starting a car, you just get in and turn the key.

Healing is a finished work, which means, that like salvation, it's has already been paid for. If Jesus were here on the Earth right now, he couldn't heal anyone, why? because he's already done it, all that is required is that you accept your healing. Whether your faith is in prayer, or in a fake pill, the concept is the same.

What about the woman that touched Jesus and was healed? He had no idea who touched him, yet he stated that it was her faith the healed her.

What about the Roman centurion? He was a straight up pagan yet Jesus marveled at the amount of faith he had stating "I tell you, I have not found such great faith even in Israel." why? because the Jews always required Jesus's presence at the scene, Jesus always obliged because that's where their faith was. The Roman was like (paraphrasing) "there's no need for you to come to my house, just say the word and my servant will be healed".

Also did not people make handkerchiefs out of the apostles clothes for the healing of the sick? Once again faith.

Now, as for the placebo effect, you refer to it as healing through natural process. If the process is natural, then you should be able to explain it naturally.

I'm all ears.

p.s.
I was, taking the time to put together a lot more evidence concerning faith and healing, but I think it would be better served by starting my own thread on the subject.