Problem dealing with death as an atheist

[Zenith]

Actually, the creation of a human by scientific methods does imply that a soul is absent: firstly, it implies that life has been born accidentally, by biological means. Secondly, if man can create man, then it means that a man with a soul is the same as a man without soul, which means that the soul is the same as non-existing, which implies that the soul does not exist. Also, if a man is created by scientific methods, then that contradicts the christian bible, because the bible claims that the man became a living being by receiving a soul.

You claim that life is in any case accidental, yet accept that you have a soul. So being accidental has nothing to do with having a soul, according to your own arguments.

Sorry, I meant "the creation of a human by scientific methods suggests that a soul is absent".

"You claim that life is in any case accidental, yet accept that you have a soul" - how did you get to that conclusion??

The argument was actually about conception and the act of normal conception implying a soul - which you have now also refuted.

I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean. Also, I'm not sure what you understood from what I've said.

Your assumption is incorrect, as I have indicated. You state for a fact that which you do not know (man created by chemistry is void of a soul). What is your basis for claiming that man created by human effort and using non-living matter will be void of a soul?
If a human is without a soul, what would go to hell?

So I have to ask you this question: what do you understand of "soul"? The 'soul' is usually regarded as something of the 'spiritual' realm. So you can't put one atom + one atom = spirit/soul.

How come? What is your basis for suggesting this? It seems to me a very deliberate and non-random action with a specific purpose in mind, contrary to willy nilly aberrations.

Sorry, again I meant "And the creation of a living cell from atoms also strongly suggests that life has been created by accident". Think about this: if a cell will be created tomorrow by scientists, directly from atoms, what would everybody say? "We made what God did millions of years ago!"??

You are correct, one cannot believe in God of his own volition. One reason being that man, as a fallen creature, will not seek God.

I meant, it's a logical problem. The same reason one can't believe that there are actually 12 gods, even though many would say "it is possible". That "possible" lacks many things to become "obvious" (or at least, very credible).

So God has to take the "first step" - and He does as it is stated that He loved us while we were still sinners, and sent his Son to die for our sins without us having to "deserve" it.

1. If God must take the "first step", why did you take the first step by starting to preach Him?
2. You believe that you can recite a christian theory as some "magical words" that is supposed to make God convert people.

As far as other religions are concerned, I would assess whether what they claim, is indeed true (as far as I can verify objectively). Now it is open for everybody to see that archeological discoveries confirm the Bible, prophecies indicates prior knowledge and creation suggest intelligent design.

Bold statement! Ask people about the Bible and you'll get thousands of contradictions, historical problems, logical problems, moral problems, etc. from them. You just assume that everybody believes that the Bible is undoubtedly the "perfect", trustworthy book. In other words, everybody (or yeah, all atheists, agnostics, deists, etc.) sees the Bible just like the Qur'an and any other book. I'm also certain that you didn't study about any other religion (well, perhaps not even about your own religion - all this theory of yours may be simply what a preacher taught you).

About NDE, you said:

Yes indeed, it is not irrefutable evidence. My question is only this:" If an honest man has all this information available, what conclusion would he come to?

The conclusion: "It cannot be known".

This is not to suggest that all questions are answered. There is the problem of suffering. There I can only speak for myself in that the part of my life where I was supposed to have the worst "suffering"

A man cannot believe that your religion is true for the sole reason that if you may somehow be right, he'll go to hell.

I doubt that you'll really understand many what I said, but anyway... .