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Making the case for Islam.
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RE: Making the case for Islam.
We recognize that it is good to help one another when we can and specially when it's not too much trouble.  This is a praise that is intuitive to people.  Helping one another is a corner stone of humans.  Our parents helped us by raising, feeding us, etc. 

We appreciate them, and rightly so.  

When we look at humanity though, we are ourselves in need of help as a whole. We are disunited and are not all guided upon one light, one way. We don't necessarily know the truth or if we do, we often incline against it due to the environment and other factors through our desires. 

As people follow false religions and are entrenched in ignorant undignified behaviour, will the Highest Being, watch, and not do anything to help guide us? 

Will he not extend a rope from him so that we unite upon it?

It seems unless there are better reasons not to help us, that he surely would.  Would he when humanity is inclining to falsehood and stories made up, not try to awaken us to our inward sacred knowledge and guide us upon a path that leads to enlightenment?

Also, the world is filled with leaders misguiding the masses, how are we suppose to distinguish the rightly guiding leaders from the misguiding leaders with proof and evidence from God? 

It seems everything that we know about praise, tells us, God would try to balance the equation somewhat. He would send a guidance so that we can follow those leaders who guide by God's command as opposed to following those leaders who call us to a falsehood and entrench us in darkness out of their desires and vanity.

The arguments against this that I've come up over the years seems to be only the following:

1) Perhaps God would rather us ponder and think for ourselves.

Refutation: A book that is designed by the Creator can make us even think MORE for ourselves then without that book, without spoon feeding too much, but at the same time, not leaving us without tools and help from him.  Why is that we all can help one another but God cannot help us. We can all read books of one another, but cannot read a book from God?

2) Perhaps religion would be such over time we would have no way to know it's originally revealed by God.


Refutation: God could of appointed a guide in each age manifestly with miracles, but obviously chooses not to do so. Yet a proof of religion is necessary if God would send religion. This suggests if there is good reasons for sending guidance, than that a book can be a miracle and be a way to know God revealed it. Otherwise it would be the case that we would have miracles with current guide today or there is no good reasons for God to send guidance or God doesn't exist. Since all these are not true, it follows God revealed a book that today is a standing proof.

We will go in details of this more later.
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Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by brewer - June 5, 2016 at 3:17 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by madog - June 5, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 6:11 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Aoi Magi - June 5, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 5, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 5, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 5, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by LastPoet - June 5, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:14 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:27 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 11:33 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 5, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 5, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 6, 2016 at 6:53 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by paulpablo - June 5, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2016 at 12:20 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 6, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 6, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Brian37 - June 6, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 6, 2016 at 6:41 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Pat Mustard - June 10, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 10, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Pat Mustard - June 10, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Spinchance - June 10, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Pat Mustard - June 11, 2016 at 5:18 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 6, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 9, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by SofaKingHigh - June 9, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 9, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by Minimalist - June 9, 2016 at 9:40 pm
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 10, 2016 at 2:58 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ignoramus - June 10, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 10, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by WinterHold - June 11, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Making the case for Islam. - by ReptilianPeon - June 11, 2016 at 12:34 pm

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