(June 5, 2016 at 10:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: But logic dictates that all statements are either true or false. A statement like "chocolate tastes better then in vanilla" is not true, because it's not a universally objective. It is not true in all cases. There exists a case in which to a person, vanilla tastes better. The statement "vanilla tastes better then chocolate" is also false.
However is the same true of moral statements as far as humans go? Can we say it's wrong for a human to torture another human for simply pleasure? I hope we can say that much. Empathy doesn't necessarily have to be the basis, there are people with little to no empathy, yet they acknowledge moral facts.
Ok but as an atheist I would say human empathy is always the basis of moral statements. I don't know what you mean by moral facts.
Taking away the assumption that god exists and just looking and what you're saying here from a straightforward, no gods involved perspective I'd say that all you can really honestly say is that people no empathy acknowledge that other people with empathy have moral codes which they live by and they will likely face punishment at some point like prison if they act without empathy all the time towards other people all the time.
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