(June 6, 2016 at 7:44 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(June 6, 2016 at 3:16 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: The Wikipedia article lists Quran verses related to the ninety-nine supposed names of Aljah and some have more support than others. What I don't understand is why some are duplicates or are made redundant by others. I mentioned other previously, but you also have Al-Hadi (the guide) which is basically the same as Ar-Rashid (The Guide to the Right Path).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam
I pick one at random I'm not sure how that Quran verse relates to that name (this the only verse that related to A-Fattah):
Al-Fattah is supposedly supported by (only) Quran 34:26
"Say: "Our Lord will gather us together and will in the end decide the matter between us (and you) in truth and justice: and He is the one to decide, the One Who knows all.""
Where in that verse is the name of Allah? I don't see any names there. Shouldn't it say "The Victory Giver". Am I missing something?
I also notice name Al-Wahhab and I think that's curious. So Abdul Wahaab is named after one of the names of Allah?
It's like people and their fortune tellers. The supposed psychic mediums are good at judging behavior and only speak with vague language. They aren't in contact with "spirits".
Parents probably convince their children they are possessed by Jinn if they are too rebellious. Then you have to go and see the crazy Sheikh. e.g.
Parents, church members beat teen to death, injured brother while trying to get them to ‘confess sins’ at N.Y. church: cops
That list is not right; it points to verses which have no mention of the specified name, you also have:
Al-Majid
Al-Wajid
The 99 comes directly from the Hadith:
http://ustazkamal3449.blogspot.com/2011/05/are-names-of-allah-limited-to-99-names.html
But the majority of Muslim scholars do believe that the names exceed 99.
Personally, when I pray, the name I call depends on the attribute/quality I want to praise; that's why I stick to what is mentioned in the Quran in terms of names. I can't know why Muslim don't just stick to their holy book in those regards.
Wahhab is in the Quran, it's included about 3 times.
"Abd" means "slaves", so "Abd Allah/Abdullah" means "the slave of Allah", "Abd Al Rahman/Abdulrahman" means "the slave of the merciful"...etc.
Our "Abd Al Wahhab" is called Mohammed; that's his personal name, Abdul Wahhab is his dad, "Mohammed, the son of, Abd Al Wahhab".
Ibn=the son of.
These exorcism stuff just make wonder. Yep, psychological mess is translated as "demon possession", and when people don't agree with you there's always the "dark influence" charge to throw at your enemies.
Atlas I cannot repeat this enough, while I think it is great that you are not so insecure as to fear having your claims picked on, you also are missing very glaring problems with your own logic too.
I find it absurd, when any religion does this, not just yours.
Why cant you see the problem with claiming your claimed god, by your logic, you claim loves you and humanity, but chooses to allow all the violence and drama even between fellow Muslims? I am sorry Atlas, but the Quran is still the same book Mystic is using that you are using to come to very different conclusions.
If I had two kids who were fighting over their toys to the point where they were harming each other, I would take the toys away.
Imagine for a second, you were an employee at a bicycle factory, now imagine if that factory boss gave you an assembly manual the workers could not agree on. Imagine if those workers started murdering each other over the interpretations of how to assemble the bikes? Would you find that boss moral, or insane?
I find it absurd to claim that any god someone wants to claim, would value needless drama and violence while at the same time claiming this alleged god has the power to make it clear.
Atlas, the truth is that those books were written by humans who didn't have any modern understanding of reality like we do now. The Quran and Jewish OT and Bible were all written in an age of tribal kingdoms and all of them competed with each other over which tribe was the correct tribe, even within the same religions fighting over the very same books. Not just other religions.
There were not written religions 200,000 years ago, much less 4 billion years ago, much less 13.8 billion years ago. I find it absurd to even claim that humans, much less any one religion, are the center of the planet, much less the universe. It makes much more sense to me that humans believe in these things because they don't like the idea of being finite.
