RE: Myths & Truths About Atheism
April 1, 2009 at 2:53 pm
(April 1, 2009 at 1:30 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
"The task of preserving and advancing the highest humanity, given to this earth by the benevolence of the Almighty, seems a truly high mission."
And don't forget the Nazi soldiers whose uniforms included belt buckles with the inscription "Gott Mit Uns" (in English, "God is with us")...
I fail to see how any of those quotes directly relate to Christianity. Mentioning "God" only means he was not an atheist, which makes him either a theist or a deist. He seems more likely to be a theist than a deist though.
(April 1, 2009 at 2:32 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: Since Hitler remained a formal memebr of the Church till his deaht, Hitler was indeed a Christian
I'm still a formal member of a Church (seeing as I never told them I didn't believe any more). Does that make me a Christian? No.
Quote:While there is controversy that Hitler may have not believed in Catholicism based on some things he said, one thing is clear is that he was raised Christian, never left the church, and used Christian anti-semitism for the war. There's even a connection between Hitler and Martin Luther. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_and_antisemitism
I'm not disputing he had connections with the Catholic church. I'm disputing some weird claim that he actually believe in Catholicism, which has never been proven. Indeed, in public he praised religion to get followers, but in private he despised it: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay." (Goebbels).
Quote:I have not seen any consensus that Hitler was not a Christian. In fact from what I can tell they are still disputed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitle...us_beliefs
The section of private statements is a good basis for what Hitler really thought.
Quote:But the point that is most important when someone talks about Nazism, is that whether or not Hitler secretly believed or not, the war was supported by Christianity and it was Christian propaganda that Hitler used.
Now that I don't dispute, but Kyu's argument was that Hitler was a Christian, which is blatantly not true.