(June 8, 2016 at 4:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:(June 8, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: . . . or the asshole who's trying to scare you with an imaginary dangerous animal.
Haha
Of course, Huggy's poor analogy doesn't really address my earlier stance.
God, according to myth, creating everything. Including sin. Now, I've never heard anyone except Huggy claim that there's only one sin (I mean, the seven deadly ones are right there), but that's beside the point. The point is that if sin is actually that offensive to god, then maybe he shouldn't have created it, or, really, anything to begin with. Non-creation is a hell (see what I did there?) of a lot more moral than creating billions destined for torture. There's literally no harm being done with no creation.
And if god had an urge so overwhelming to create that he couldn't fight it (which would raise many more questions), then surely he could create people in heaven directly. Or a more secure environment than the Garden of Eden, at any rate.
Theists always look at it from the wrong angle. "God wants us to have free will!" Okay, fine. But that doesn't mean that god can't create an environment of only good options for people to choose from. The idea that it's not allowed merely highlights their lack of imagination and their own dogmatic limits they place on their purported almighty. If I can envision several different forms of reality that wouldn't wind up with billions tortured for eternity, then their god aught to have no problem with it.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying that this here, this one thing, is why I'm not a believer. I'm merely pointing out the flaws in this aspect of the setup. And subtly mocking it. Because it's a really shitty system.
hindu system points out that we were like fallen angels - spawned with lots of karmic currency to spend and we had a choice and still have - try to comfortably survive or pursue higher goals like common good and heaven. Were basically fallen angels, all of us, according to hindu vedas.
