20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting

[A Theist]

I love that all the pro-gun peeps here, burbling on about box cutters and demanding we focus on ISIS as though gun violence was never an immediate problem in the US before this, are so committed to completely ignoring the historical precedents in other countries. How many mass shootings have there been in, say, Australia, after the one big one they had prompted reasonable gun control legislation that, unfortunately for the fear mongering "dey gunna tek urr gunns!" rhetoric of WoG, prompted a voluntary buy-back and still allowed people to own guns so long as they actually needed them for something? How many, in the over twenty years?

Less than there have been in America this week.

But the pro-gun side simply refuses to learn from other countries, despite that clear, unambiguous example. Either they simply won't consider points counter to their terrified, gun-humping propaganda, or they somehow think that America is this huge exception to the rule where the opposite is what will work, despite not having worked in the years before that. Neither position has any justification, but they won't let go of them, because this was never about solving the problem in the first place for them.

Then start another thread for debating gun control. The killing in Orlando was a terrorist attack spurred on by ISIS. How will more gun control laws stop terrorists from attacking the U.S.? Do you think more laws are going to stop them?

I love that all the pro-gun peeps here, burbling on about box cutters and demanding we focus on ISIS...

You're saying that ISIS and terrorism isn't a problem, and gun control is the cure all for stopping terrorist attacks?