(June 13, 2016 at 9:53 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: It’s a fact that I cannot say I have never done anything bad willfully and with the knowledge that it was bad, sometimes even because it was bad. But that is still no justification for the things god has done in the bible or for the eternal punishment promised there.
Sin is sometimes described as a sickness. To put it another way, let's say I'm infected with the zombie virus, not a zombie (yet) just a carrier/someone who has the virus that can indeed infect others. Now, should I be allowed to co mingle with the rest of society or should I be separated??
What if I were a really really 'good person?' does it matter what type of person I was if what is being looked at is whether or not I carry the virus?
What if their were a cure or a vaccine that nullified the virus and I being a 'good person' who has done many 'good deeds' feel I don't need to take the vaccine because my 'good deeds' and the fact that I personally do not see dead flesh reanimating on me, decide I do not need to take the antidote because again I am a 'good person' Despite any mandate issued or given...
What if.. their was a public mandate to take the vaccine or be put to death? should I be spared death being that I am fully infected and can infect others, but still refuse to be cured because I 'feel' my morals would not allow me to hurt anyone, even though the virus still infects others?
Do you see the parallel here?
Sin has nothing to do with your 'morality.' It is an infection that we all have, and can be cured of despite how 'moral' we label ourselves. Sin like a virus has absolutely nothing to do with your deeds, but rather a standard you can never obtain. So then God provides a cure for 'sin.' But, you've changed the meaning of sin from a 'sickness' that you can not control to morality you think you can, and you make God 'evil' for insisting that you be inoculated or be put to death for spreading your infection.
Quote:Can a parent who beats his child to a pulp, burns him with a clothes iron, deprives him of food and locks him in a closet for three days justify himself because the child disobeyed him?So... Might doesn't make right?
Your god is supposed to be more not less good. He’s supposed to have higher principles.
Yet, you and your bible do everything in your power to show that he has no principles beyond might makes right.
Our jails are full of people who think nobody understands them.
Show me a country, political movement, social structure, community really anything where might in not the foundation of 'right.'
Again, if you frame this in the analogy or terms I listed above, might is needed to force a separation from the deluded/infected and those who have been cured. Otherwise they/you would force your infection onto everyone who is not already 'sick.'