(June 13, 2016 at 2:59 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(June 13, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: Sin is sometimes described as a sickness. To put it another way, let's say I'm infected with the zombie virus, not a zombie (yet) just a carrier/someone who has the virus that can indeed infect others. Now, should I be allowed to co mingle with the rest of society or should I be separated??As always, Christian's best argument depends on a hypothetical "IF," rather than reality. Since god put the original tree of knowledge in the garden when Adam had no way to know it was evil to disobey god, your god is still responsible for the presence of sin in the world.
What if I were a really really 'good person?' does it matter what type of person I was if what is being looked at is whether or not I carry the virus?
What if their were a cure or a vaccine that nullified the virus and I being a 'good person' who has done many 'good deeds' feel I don't need to take the vaccine because my 'good deeds' and the fact that I personally do not see dead flesh reanimating on me, decide I do not need to take the antidote because again I am a 'good person' Despite any mandate issued or given...
What if.. their was a public mandate to take the vaccine or be put to death? should I be spared death being that I am fully infected and can infect others, but still refuse to be cured because I 'feel' my morals would not allow me to hurt anyone, even though the virus still infects others?
Do you see the parallel here?
Sin has nothing to do with your 'morality.' It is an infection that we all have, and can be cured of despite how 'moral' we label ourselves. Sin like a virus has absolutely nothing to do with your deeds, but rather a standard you can never obtain. So then God provides a cure for 'sin.' But, you've changed the meaning of sin from a 'sickness' that you can not control to morality you think you can, and you make God 'evil' for insisting that you be inoculated or be put to death for spreading your infection.
So... Might doesn't make right?
Show me a country, political movement, social structure, community really anything where might in not the foundation of 'right.'
Again, if you frame this in the analogy or terms I listed above, might is needed to force a separation from the deluded/infected and those who have been cured. Otherwise they/you would force your infection onto everyone who is not already 'sick.'
I don't accept the so-called cure because it is, like the so-called virus, a fairytale.
Typical atheist cop out..
Atheist: "I want to indite god using my morals and the contrast found in the bible as evidence as to his wicked nature."
Theist: Uses same bible to clarify so atheist finally understands
Atheist: then moves to dismiss based on everything being a fairy tale..
Theist: then asks, if everything is fair tale then from where does this indictment come from? _or rather if the bible can be used as evidence to indite God, why can't it be used to vindicate Him as well? why must their be some unspecified source that only top scientist can identify and magically approve of, if the subject of God's indictment is valid when you first make it?
Atheist: shut up your stupid.