RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
June 15, 2016 at 12:30 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2016 at 12:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If the purpose of your constant definitions is simply to equivocate between the terms I don't think we have anything more to discuss. In any case...no..knowing all true propositions does not make any conclusion a logical one. For a conclusion to be a logical one, you must do logic. Redefine that, if you like.....but I'll know we're not talking about the same thing the moment you do - and you clearly need for us to be talking about the same thing.
"logical in nature"...lol. Pick a story and stick with it, that's all I ask...in conversation or faith. Your question regarding what might "get us somewhere" tells me that you're plainly aware of the requirement of doing something with those propositions..true or false, no matter how many are known, or by whom......before anything can be called a logical or illogical conclusion.
Now sure, I get that you want to be able to describe gods "conclusions" or omniscience as logical, I understand why. You value logic, you think that it;s informative and demonstrative. You also, unfortunately, value your god claims. More so than you value logic. You want god and all that he does or is to be logical without needing to do logic..without the hassle of meeting the requirements that are self described by that system...and that's not doing logic either.
The truth of a proposition does not guarantee the truth a conclusion, or that the conclusion is logical. You'll need means of inference, you'll need to consistently and correctly apply them. You could know every true proposition in the world...and if you fail to do the latter every ounce of your knowledge, every one of your "conclusions" is either a-logical or illogical regardless of their factual accuracy. So yeah, to your final question...in that every single damned one of your "conclusions" based upon true propositions can be as illogical as all get out.
We call it getting it right for the wrong reasons, or for no reason. You call it omniscience, apparently...and that's why we don't equivocate, eh?
"logical in nature"...lol. Pick a story and stick with it, that's all I ask...in conversation or faith. Your question regarding what might "get us somewhere" tells me that you're plainly aware of the requirement of doing something with those propositions..true or false, no matter how many are known, or by whom......before anything can be called a logical or illogical conclusion.
Now sure, I get that you want to be able to describe gods "conclusions" or omniscience as logical, I understand why. You value logic, you think that it;s informative and demonstrative. You also, unfortunately, value your god claims. More so than you value logic. You want god and all that he does or is to be logical without needing to do logic..without the hassle of meeting the requirements that are self described by that system...and that's not doing logic either.
The truth of a proposition does not guarantee the truth a conclusion, or that the conclusion is logical. You'll need means of inference, you'll need to consistently and correctly apply them. You could know every true proposition in the world...and if you fail to do the latter every ounce of your knowledge, every one of your "conclusions" is either a-logical or illogical regardless of their factual accuracy. So yeah, to your final question...in that every single damned one of your "conclusions" based upon true propositions can be as illogical as all get out.
We call it getting it right for the wrong reasons, or for no reason. You call it omniscience, apparently...and that's why we don't equivocate, eh?
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