(June 19, 2016 at 11:58 am)abaris Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 11:42 am)madog Wrote: You should take a little time and listen to ex Muslims and the problems they get in their own community and the death threats and lack of support from Liberals .....
I'm perfectly aware of that, thank you very much. But it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't take a specific religion to go there. Russia would be a perfect example, as well as Poland under it's newest abomination of a government.
You keep bringing in examples as if one bad excuses another?
I think any one infringing on another persons accepted rights in their (adopted) home nation should be challenged ....
If the infringement is because of Christianity, Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, whatever religious doctrine then that religious doctrine should be challenged.
Those that do accept parts of their religion are unacceptable (or have been interpreted incorrectly by some) will have no problem when these shortfalls are pointed out ....
They should find no insult when shortfalls with hard line doctrine are pointed out as those are not their beliefs ...... It is only those that agree with infringements on others freedom that will take offence ....
The problem is the pseudo Liberals are protecting those religious elements that want to maintain their religious hard line doctrines at the cost of moderate Muslims.
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog