RE: Hypothetically, science proves free will isn't real
July 5, 2016 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2016 at 11:39 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(July 5, 2016 at 9:31 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Alistar Ham insists that in a deterministic universe people still make choices. Someone has a choice only when he or she could do otherwise.
You can insist that if determinism is true our decisions "aren't true decisions" all you want but it doesn't deny the reality of decisions.
If I hadn't decided to type up this post it wouldn't have typed up itself. That is still the case regardless of whether I was determined to decide to type it up or not.
Again, you are conflating fatalism and determinism. Determinism says our decisions are part of the causal change. Fatalism says we "have no choice so we might as well not bother. Why get out of bed in the morning?" but it ignores the fact our decisions are part of the causal chain, rather than being nonexistent.
Determinism means our decisions are fully determined and not free, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
