(July 11, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 11, 2016 at 5:19 am)Lucifer Wrote: Well, alright, you can get one, but please don't disappoint my trust. Here are some of the reasons that I was a Christian:
1. I repented from my sins, very often, very sincerely.
2. I did my best to live a good life, to get rid of my sins and live according to gods will.
3. I actually believed in Jesus and that he had died for me sins, and I have accepted that.
4. I was baptized when I was 12, this was a very sincere choice at the time.
5. I dedicated my life to living for God, often requiring personal sacrifices. I was not ashamed of the gospel and spread it actively and I gave away my time and my money for his purpose.
I could give more, but I think this is enough for now.
Okay I will accept those answers, I believe you thought you were sincere in what you believed. Now what you believed may have some serious problems.
1) If your belief was real then how is it you can deny God, if you truly believed and knew Him you couldn't deny His existence now could you?
Because people can really believe in untrue things.
Having a real, sincere belief, does not say anything about whether what is believed in is true.
Quote:2) If you were a Christian then according to scripture you would have known God is real, yes the Bible teaches one can know God because God promises to reveal himself to those who have a real belief in Him. Drich asked you if you ever asked God to reveal himself to you?
And Muslims believe the same thing about their god.
Yet, you believe they are mistaking.
And here we are, as nonbelievers, looking at both your claims with no way to tell who is right. Or more likely, you are both wrong.
Quote:4) Some believe baptism is required to be saved, it's not, the thief on the cross that accepted Jesus while hanging there didn't get baptized. It is something the Holy Spirit will convict you to do, so you can through a physical representation show that you have accepted Christ, died to sin and are reborn (raised) into eternal life.
5) How did you know what God's will for you was? All Christians are called to live a life according to Christ teachings but there is a personal will God has for your life, Paul teaches us this using the physical body as an illustration. Do you have an idea what body part you would have been, careful how you answer tis question.
6) You said you made personal sacrifice for God were they what you chose, because in all my experiences God chooses what you will give up in this life. If you decide to follow His will you will accept what He ask you to give up, again not your choice it's God's because He knows what's best for you, you accept what He knows is good for you and do God's personal will in your life and watch his choice come to pass as a good thing in your life.
Those are some great examples of unsupported claims.
What do you have besides ancient texts to support them?
Quote:7) Now if you were a Christian you would have had a personal relationship with God, He would have revealed himself to you as a real being interested in your life and because of this revelation you would not be able to deny God's reality. Once you are a Christian you will seek out more and more about who God is, if you do not then you should ask yourself did I really accept Christ as God's eternal gift.
Or those that claim to have had experiences of their god "revealing himself" to them are misinterpreting some, other than normal, brain state as being a god.
Again, remember, many theists other than Christians claim to have had their gods reveal themselves.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
